Toggle on or off Toggle on or off

User Info


Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password



Membership:
Latest: knotian
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 11912

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 237
Total: 237
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Artikel
02: Forums Communauté
03: Моя учетная запись
04: Startseite
05: Моя учетная запись
06: Benutzer Foren
07: Stories Archive
08: Startseite
09: Benutzer Foren
10: Startseite
11: Uživatelské fórum
12: Downloads
13: Startseite
14: Forum
15: Artikel
16: Artikel
17: Artikelarchiv
18: Artikelarchiv
19: Téléchargements
20: Benutzer Foren
21: Artikelarchiv
22: Artikel
23: Suchen
24: Gruppen
25: Community Forums
26: Artikelarchiv
27: Artikelarchiv
28: Artikelarchiv
29: Benutzer Foren
30: Artikelarchiv
31: Startseite
32: Artykuły
33: Artikelarchiv
34: Artikel
35: Artikelarchiv
36: Artikelarchiv
37: Community Forums
38: Artikelarchiv
39: Artikelarchiv
40: Artikelarchiv
41: Artikelarchiv
42: Artikelarchiv
43: Artikel
44: Artikelarchiv
45: Artikelarchiv
46: Forums Communauté
47: Artikelarchiv
48: Artikelarchiv
49: Community Forums
50: My Account
51: Benutzer Foren
52: Community Forums
53: Artikelarchiv
54: Benutzer Foren
55: Artikelarchiv
56: Artikelarchiv
57: Moje konto
58: Pliki
59: Artykuły
60: Artikelarchiv
61: Startseite
62: Artikelarchiv
63: Artikel
64: Artikelarchiv
65: Gruppen
66: Forums Communauté
67: Artikelarchiv
68: Artikelarchiv
69: Artikelarchiv
70: Artikelarchiv
71: Artikelarchiv
72: Artikelarchiv
73: Artikelarchiv
74: Artikel
75: Artikel
76: Artikelarchiv
77: Artikelarchiv
78: Links
79: Artikelarchiv
80: Artikel
81: Artikelarchiv
82: Artikelarchiv
83: Artikelarchiv
84: Community Forums
85: Artikelarchiv
86: Общецтвенные Форумы
87: Startseite
88: Startseite
89: Gruppen
90: Artikel
91: Artikelarchiv
92: Forum
93: Artikelarchiv
94: Artikelarchiv
95: Artikelarchiv
96: Forum społeczności
97: Artikelarchiv
98: Artikel
99: Моя учетная запись
100: Artikelarchiv
101: Artikelarchiv
102: Uživatelské fórum
103: Startseite
104: Community Forums
105: Stories Archive
106: Общецтвенные Форумы
107: Benutzer Foren
108: Community Forums
109: Benutzer Foren
110: Forums Communauté
111: Forums Communauté
112: Artikelarchiv
113: Community Forums
114: Startseite
115: Uživatelské fórum
116: Benutzer Foren
117: Artikelarchiv
118: Artikelarchiv
119: Artikelarchiv
120: Community Forums
121: Benutzer Foren
122: Artikelarchiv
123: Artikelarchiv
124: Startseite
125: Artikelarchiv
126: Benutzer Foren
127: Moje konto
128: Artikelarchiv
129: Общецтвенные Форумы
130: Community Forums
131: Моя учетная запись
132: Artikelarchiv
133: Suchen
134: Links
135: Artikelarchiv
136: Community Forums
137: Artikelarchiv
138: Artikel
139: Forums Communauté
140: Forum
141: Benutzer Foren
142: Photo Gallery
143: Forum społeczności
144: Artikelarchiv
145: Artikelarchiv
146: Artikelarchiv
147: Downloads
148: Artikelarchiv
149: Links
150: Artikel
151: Artikelarchiv
152: Startseite
153: Artikelarchiv
154: Artikelarchiv
155: Artikelarchiv
156: Startseite
157: Forum
158: Artikelarchiv
159: Community Forums
160: Startseite
161: Artikel
162: Artikelarchiv
163: Artikelarchiv
164: Artikelarchiv
165: Artikelarchiv
166: Artikelarchiv
167: Artikel
168: Artikel
169: Startseite
170: Artikelarchiv
171: Artikelarchiv
172: Artikelarchiv
173: Artikelarchiv
174: Artikelarchiv
175: Artikel
176: Artikelarchiv
177: Artikelarchiv
178: Artikelarchiv
179: Artikel
180: Suchen
181: Artikelarchiv
182: Gruppen
183: Artikel
184: Artikelarchiv
185: Artikelarchiv
186: Artikelarchiv
187: Artikelarchiv
188: Forums Communauté
189: Downloads
190: Artikelarchiv
191: Artikelarchiv
192: Artikel
193: Artikelarchiv
194: Forums Communauté
195: Startseite
196: Artikelarchiv
197: Uživatelské fórum
198: Community Forums
199: Benutzer Foren
200: Forums Communauté
201: Forum społeczności
202: Artikelarchiv
203: Artykuły
204: Artikelarchiv
205: Startseite
206: Benutzer Foren
207: Artikelarchiv
208: Gruppen
209: Forums Communauté
210: Uživatelské fórum
211: Startseite
212: Artikelarchiv
213: Artikelarchiv
214: Artikelarchiv
215: Artikelarchiv
216: Uživatelské fórum
217: Artikelarchiv
218: Forum
219: Gruppen
220: Artikelarchiv
221: Benutzer Foren
222: Benutzer Foren
223: Artikelarchiv
224: Artikelarchiv
225: Artikel
226: Benutzer Foren
227: Artikel
228: Il Mio Account
229: Artikel
230: Forum społeczności
231: Downloads
232: Forum społeczności
233: Forums Communauté
234: Artikelarchiv
235: Forum
236: Artikelarchiv
237: Forum

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!

Main Menue

 Home Community Members options Forums

Select Language

Český English Français Deutsch Italiano Polski РУССКИЙ

Users on Tour

The first North American Journey Man

Read the diary blog of
Chris Koehn

Shoulder connection posts to two beams - problem!?

Q/A about D-Wall, D-Roof, D-Floor/ Ceiling, D-CAM
Reply to topicReply to topic Printer Friendly Page
Go to page Previous  1, 2

Re: Shoulder connection posts to two beams - problem!?

Post Posted: 18.09.2006 19:20

Hmmm... now I see that it is random if the program remembers the double shoulders or not - many of the was ok. But now I am checking the walls once again - and at least in one case the shoulders on the one beam were gone.

Maybe I should do what you say - to avoid the problems coming back when I send the project for production.
_________________
Sincerely Yours. M. Sc. E. Thorvald, Denmark
(Dietrichs version 7.03).

Thorvald
Tera Poster
Tera Poster
 
Posts: 1062
Joined: Aug 16, 2006

Re: Shoulder connection posts to two beams - problem!?

Post Posted: 18.09.2006 19:42

How should I explode it? Should I stand on the last shoulder and explode, or should I mark all shoulders and explode or should I explode shoulders one by one?

@Dietrichs: This is really something that need a solution - if there are not other ways that works.
_________________
Sincerely Yours. M. Sc. E. Thorvald, Denmark
(Dietrichs version 7.03).

Thorvald
Tera Poster
Tera Poster
 
Posts: 1062
Joined: Aug 16, 2006

Re: Shoulder connection posts to two beams - problem!?

Post Posted: 18.09.2006 19:51

I also posted this problem in the german beta forum.
The logic of the program is to connect 1 post to 1 beam and automatically recognize, when one of them is moved; then the connection will also move. What we are trying here is too difficult for this logic, because it should work with 3 beams, but that is not (yet) programmed.
_________________
Freundlich grüßt
Der_Planer

Der_Planer
Power-Experte
Power-Experte
 
Posts: 10516
Joined: Aug 24, 2004
Location: 51674 Wiehl

Re: Shoulder connection posts to two beams - problem!?

Post Posted: 18.09.2006 20:11

So they should program it, he, he... Very Happy The next question could be: Would it be possible to receive same result with another type of connection? I tried end lap joint, but I am not sure if it works.

You see at this picture how beatiful it is... Wink
_________________
Sincerely Yours. M. Sc. E. Thorvald, Denmark
(Dietrichs version 7.03).

Thorvald
Tera Poster
Tera Poster
 
Posts: 1062
Joined: Aug 16, 2006

Re: Shoulder connection posts to two beams - problem!?

Post Posted: 18.09.2006 21:26

The strange thing is that it worked in some walls and stayed ok, and in other walls it did not work and stayed not ok. So now I have done the explode thing in the walls where it was not ok.

A simple solution how to select both double beams would be to make it possible to select items in the section view at the right side of the wall!
_________________
Sincerely Yours. M. Sc. E. Thorvald, Denmark
(Dietrichs version 7.03).

Thorvald
Tera Poster
Tera Poster
 
Posts: 1062
Joined: Aug 16, 2006

Re: Shoulder connection posts to two beams - problem!?

Post Posted: 18.09.2006 21:48

Hi Thorvald,

in the actual Beta_6 it is no longer possible to create 2 beam connections with 1 end of a post. Creating one is o.k., when connecting the second, then the first one is deleted immediately by the program. And that is the way the program usually works.
_________________
Freundlich grüßt
Der_Planer

Der_Planer
Power-Experte
Power-Experte
 
Posts: 10516
Joined: Aug 24, 2004
Location: 51674 Wiehl

Re: Shoulder connection posts to two beams - problem!?

Post Posted: 19.09.2006 14:35

So what you are really saying is that in the future I cannot do this kind of structure!????? Confused Not even with the explode method??

I really wonder why Dietrich will go a step back in stead of going two steps forward! Am I the only person in the world who would like to make this kind of beams over doors and windows?? I think that solution is common?

I don't like that Software limits my solutions and force me to do other solutions!!

Well what you are saying is that I have to think about other solutions for future projects Brick wall One way could be a box - see picture. Hmmm strange - I thought that anything would be possible with Dietrichs! Crying or Very sad
_________________
Sincerely Yours. M. Sc. E. Thorvald, Denmark
(Dietrichs version 7.03).

Thorvald
Tera Poster
Tera Poster
 
Posts: 1062
Joined: Aug 16, 2006

Re: Shoulder connection posts to two beams - problem!?

Post Posted: 21.09.2006 23:16

Well I have found other examples of where a 1 post to two beams shoulder connection would be usefull - so to me this debate is not finished. I would still like it to be possible in a better way than today.
_________________
Sincerely Yours. M. Sc. E. Thorvald, Denmark
(Dietrichs version 7.03).

Thorvald
Tera Poster
Tera Poster
 
Posts: 1062
Joined: Aug 16, 2006

Re: Shoulder connection posts to two beams - problem!?

Post Posted: 22.09.2006 04:16

Hi Thorvald,

In Dicam use MOS Set 6-2 to select the wall or floor you want to work on.

If the beams have been extented (cut) to the correct length use the Notch function 3-8-4 and you can create as many notches as you need.
With D-CAM you are able to do almost anything.
Try it out

Wil
_________________
Wil Dancey Dietrich's NA

Wil Dancey
Moderator
Moderator
 
Posts: 81
Joined: Aug 31, 2004
Location: Aylmer-Ontario-Canada

Re: Shoulder connection posts to two beams - problem!?

Post Posted: 22.09.2006 14:16

Maybe almost anything is possible in D-cam - but it is not easy, and it is not what I would like. Wall design is such a nice program, very easy to use - so I would like these things to be possible in wall design, without the need of using MOS, exploding etc. Very Happy
_________________
Sincerely Yours. M. Sc. E. Thorvald, Denmark
(Dietrichs version 7.03).

Thorvald
Tera Poster
Tera Poster
 
Posts: 1062
Joined: Aug 16, 2006
Display posts from previous:   
Reply to topicReply to topic Page 2 of 2 Go to page Previous  1, 2

Timber Design Modules

Jump to:  



You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum

All times are GMT + 1 Hour