Toggle on or off Toggle on or off

Info Utilisateur


Bienvenue Anonyme

Surnom/Pseudo
Mot de Passe



Inscription:
Dernier: Michal.Bakalarz
Nouveau Aujourd'hui: 1
Nouveau Hier: 0
Total: 11813

En Ligne:
Membres: 0
Visiteurs: 192
Total: 192
Qui est oû:
 Visiteurs:
01: Artikelarchiv
02: Forum społeczności
03: Benutzer Foren
04: Benutzer Foren
05: Общецтвенные Форумы
06: Downloads
07: Fotogalerie
08: Benutzer Foren
09: Uživatelské fórum
10: Benutzer Foren
11: Startseite
12: Artikelarchiv
13: Forum
14: Forums Communauté
15: Forum społeczności
16: Community Forums
17: Photo Gallery
18: Forum
19: Fotogalerie
20: Stories Archive
21: Общецтвенные Форумы
22: Benutzer Foren
23: Fotogalerie
24: Benutzer Foren
25: Community Forums
26: Community Forums
27: Community Forums
28: Community Forums
29: Artikelarchiv
30: Uživatelské fórum
31: Community Forums
32: Uživatelské fórum
33: Uživatelské fórum
34: Artikel
35: Forums Communauté
36: Benutzer Foren
37: Community Forums
38: Gruppen
39: Benutzer Foren
40: My Account
41: Forum
42: Community Forums
43: Domů
44: Forums Communauté
45: Uživatelské fórum
46: Benutzerkonto
47: Forum
48: Forum
49: Gruppen
50: Gruppen
51: Links
52: Stories Archive
53: Forum
54: Forums Communauté
55: Community Forums
56: Benutzer Foren
57: Community Forums
58: Photo Gallery
59: Archiv pro novinek
60: Forums Communauté
61: Forum społeczności
62: Uživatelské fórum
63: Benutzer Foren
64: Общецтвенные Форумы
65: Photo Gallery
66: Benutzer Foren
67: Forum społeczności
68: Forums Communauté
69: Startseite
70: Benutzer Foren
71: Forum
72: Forum społeczności
73: Photo Gallery
74: Benutzer Foren
75: Benutzer Foren
76: Community Forums
77: Suchen
78: Общецтвенные Форумы
79: Photo Gallery
80: Community Forums
81: Uživatelské fórum
82: Community Forums
83: Stories Archive
84: Community Forums
85: Community Forums
86: Community Forums
87: Forum społeczności
88: Mon Compte
89: Community Forums
90: Benutzer Foren
91: Community Forums
92: Community Forums
93: Benutzer Foren
94: Photo Gallery
95: Archivio Storie
96: Benutzer Foren
97: Startseite
98: Benutzer Foren
99: Community Forums
100: Forums Communauté
101: Stories Archive
102: Benutzer Foren
103: Stories Archive
104: Forums Communauté
105: Community Forums
106: Community Forums
107: Startseite
108: Forum
109: Benutzer Foren
110: Community Forums
111: Benutzer Foren
112: Community Forums
113: Общецтвенные Форумы
114: Community Forums
115: Forums Communauté
116: Forum
117: Benutzer Foren
118: Forums Communauté
119: Общецтвенные Форумы
120: Forum
121: Forum społeczności
122: Articles
123: Domů
124: Benutzer Foren
125: Community Forums
126: Artikelarchiv
127: Benutzer Foren
128: Forum
129: Community Forums
130: Community Forums
131: Suchen
132: Forum społeczności
133: Articles
134: Artikelarchiv
135: Benutzer Foren
136: Forum
137: Benutzer Foren
138: Artikel
139: Links
140: Startseite
141: Community Forums
142: Общецтвенные Форумы
143: Community Forums
144: Community Forums
145: Fotogalerie
146: Forum społeczności
147: Pages professionnelles
148: Forum społeczności
149: Fotogalerie
150: Forums Communauté
151: Community Forums
152: Benutzer Foren
153: Forums Communauté
154: Общецтвенные Форумы
155: Benutzer Foren
156: Domů
157: Forum społeczności
158: Community Forums
159: Uživatelské fórum
160: Forums Communauté
161: Forum
162: Community Forums
163: Startseite
164: Startseite
165: Archiv pro novinek
166: Forum społeczności
167: Community Forums
168: Links
169: Forum społeczności
170: Forum społeczności
171: Artikelarchiv
172: Downloads
173: Articles
174: Benutzer Foren
175: Gruppen
176: Photo Gallery
177: Community Forums
178: Artikelarchiv
179: Forum społeczności
180: Startseite
181: Community Forums
182: Benutzer Foren
183: Artikel
184: Articles
185: Forum
186: Community Forums
187: Forum społeczności
188: Forums Communauté
189: Artikelarchiv
190: Fotogalerie
191: Benutzer Foren
192: Photo Gallery

Staff en Ligne:

Pas de membre du staff en ligne!

Sélectionnez votre langue

Český English Français Deutsch Italiano Polski РУССКИЙ

Can I cut profiled beams

Q/A about D-Wall, D-Roof, D-Floor/ Ceiling, D-CAM
Répondre au sujetRépondre au sujet Imprimer la page Amis
Aller à la page 1, 2  Suivante

Can I cut profiled beams

Poster Posté le: 26.09.2007 19:05

Allo,

I'm trying to cut TJI's from the database. I can only cut them square.
I would like to cut them at an angle, such as a plumb cut (obolz) on a rafters. Question

Hans

ArgentaHans
Superposter
Superposter
 
Envoyés: 173
Inscrit le: Sep 21, 2006
Localisation: Argenta British Columbia

Re: Can I cut profiled beams

Poster Posté le: 26.09.2007 19:13

Hey Exclamation

I answered my own question. I used 3-5-1 instead of 3-5-2 and it worked.

Hans

ArgentaHans
Superposter
Superposter
 
Envoyés: 173
Inscrit le: Sep 21, 2006
Localisation: Argenta British Columbia

Re: Can I cut profiled beams

Poster Posté le: 26.09.2007 19:20

Confus Confus Confus

I was able to cut my TJI's in the valley, but I cannot them plumb. Even with using 3-5-1. I even tried 5-5-(5,6,7) parallel to a plane. Question Confus

Hans

ArgentaHans
Superposter
Superposter
 
Envoyés: 173
Inscrit le: Sep 21, 2006
Localisation: Argenta British Columbia

Re: Can I cut profiled beams

Poster Posté le: 26.09.2007 21:45

You should be able to use all this functions with TJI too. There are no restrictions.
What is going on if you try to cut the TJI? Is there any message or do you just get a wrong result?
_________________
Viele Grüße,
Joachim Neumann (Dietrich's AG)
Software für den Holzbau, Abbund, Holzrahmenbau, Blockbau, Ingenieurholzbau und für die Fertighausindustrie

if (ahnung == 0) { read "Tipps & Tricks"; use SEARCH; use Blog; } else { use brain; make post; }

Joachim Neumann
Moderator
Moderator
 
Envoyés: 27423
Inscrit le: Jui 07, 2004
Localisation: Neubiberg

Re: Can I cut profiled beams

Poster Posté le: 26.09.2007 21:57

Hi Joachim
you know when you go through the steps, pick the piece, choose your plane with 2 lines or 3 points and then pick your point on the plane, then it asks you which end do you wish to cut. When it works, the dialogue box for the distance to the cutting plane opens up and all is good. When I try to make a plumb cut, it quits after selecting the end you wish to cut and the highlighted piece turns off and your prompted to select the next piece for cutting. If I try just a vertical cut (3-5-2), it just deselects the piece after choosing the end of the piece to cut.

Thanks for your time

Hans

ArgentaHans
Superposter
Superposter
 
Envoyés: 173
Inscrit le: Sep 21, 2006
Localisation: Argenta British Columbia

Re: Can I cut profiled beams

Poster Posté le: 26.09.2007 22:56

Hi Hans,

I checked your problem with an example but I cannot reproduce it. In my case it worked fine.
Can you give us your position as attachement?
_________________
Viele Grüße,
Joachim Neumann (Dietrich's AG)
Software für den Holzbau, Abbund, Holzrahmenbau, Blockbau, Ingenieurholzbau und für die Fertighausindustrie

if (ahnung == 0) { read "Tipps & Tricks"; use SEARCH; use Blog; } else { use brain; make post; }

Joachim Neumann
Moderator
Moderator
 
Envoyés: 27423
Inscrit le: Jui 07, 2004
Localisation: Neubiberg

Re: Can I cut profiled beams

Poster Posté le: 27.09.2007 01:26

Hi joachim

Here's my position.

Hans

ArgentaHans
Superposter
Superposter
 
Envoyés: 173
Inscrit le: Sep 21, 2006
Localisation: Argenta British Columbia

Re: Can I cut profiled beams

Poster Posté le: 27.09.2007 02:32

Hi Hans,

there are very strange things going on with your TJIs Choqué
How did you get them to their place where they are now?
I think they were not made in roof construction, because they are all grey there.
If you enterd them in Dicam Free Construction, why do most of them have no cuts? (empty list!)

When I try to devide them with 3-5-4, they are really devided as if I had chosen 3-5-3. I checked the beam's coordinate systems, but they seem to be ok.
I also checked, if dicam works with global coordinates, and it was correct.

I entered a new TJI, and rotated it like a rafter. This new beam has two cuts (at beginning and end). With my TJI all 3-5-x functions work well.

So how did you enter your TJIs, that they behave so strange? Rouler des yeux
_________________
Freundlich grüßt
Der_Planer

Der_Planer
Power-Experte
Power-Experte
 
Envoyés: 10459
Inscrit le: Aou 24, 2004
Localisation: 51143 Köln

Re: Can I cut profiled beams

Poster Posté le: 27.09.2007 03:00

I found out, that not all your beams are so strange. The strange ones have an other width as the normal ones (1 digit difference at 4th decimal place).
I think you enterd the normal beams on one side of the roof, and duplicated them by mirroring to the other side. By experience I know, that mirrored beams are not as exact as normal beams are, so you should be very careful with this function.

Delete all beams you have mirrored, and enter them once again as normal TJIs, then, I guess, the problem is solved.
_________________
Freundlich grüßt
Der_Planer

Der_Planer
Power-Experte
Power-Experte
 
Envoyés: 10459
Inscrit le: Aou 24, 2004
Localisation: 51143 Köln

Re: Can I cut profiled beams

Poster Posté le: 27.09.2007 03:07

I originally entered the first pair in wall design using the 5-3-7 command and inputing the correct lenght. I tried cutting a plumb cut at the peak in Wall but it wouldn't let me. So I cut them square after thinking that it might be easier to assemble on site anyway. Then in Dicam I changed their MOS. then copied them. Then I tried cutting vertically in Dicam. and now I'm here.

Idée But come to think of it, why didn't I insert them in Roof Design? Embarassé Rouler des yeux

ArgentaHans
Superposter
Superposter
 
Envoyés: 173
Inscrit le: Sep 21, 2006
Localisation: Argenta British Columbia

Re: Can I cut profiled beams

Poster Posté le: 27.09.2007 03:22

Whatever you did, it was an unusual way. If you check the TJI's coordinate systems, you will see, that one roof side is ok, but on the other side the beams are upside down. I think I would renew them all in roof design.

btw: do you really know, your dovetail corners are ok? I don't think so. The angles should point to opposite direction.
_________________
Freundlich grüßt
Der_Planer

Der_Planer
Power-Experte
Power-Experte
 
Envoyés: 10459
Inscrit le: Aou 24, 2004
Localisation: 51143 Köln

Re: Can I cut profiled beams

Poster Posté le: 27.09.2007 03:31

No, I didn't know about the dovetails. I just did those ones quickly for the elevation drawings. I guess the shop guys are goig to have a good laugh at my expense. wacko
Thanks for your help. I'll redo those TJI's in Roof and let you know how it goes.

Danke

Hansi.

ArgentaHans
Superposter
Superposter
 
Envoyés: 173
Inscrit le: Sep 21, 2006
Localisation: Argenta British Columbia

Re: Can I cut profiled beams

Poster Posté le: 27.09.2007 03:47

only for interest:

the mess started with your wall No.12
When you measure the inside bottom line, you see, that it is not exactly 270°.
I guess, this was the origin of your TJIs. If the wall had been exactly straight, perhaps you might not have had a problem.
_________________
Freundlich grüßt
Der_Planer

Der_Planer
Power-Experte
Power-Experte
 
Envoyés: 10459
Inscrit le: Aou 24, 2004
Localisation: 51143 Köln

Re: Can I cut profiled beams

Poster Posté le: 27.09.2007 08:53

Hi Planer,

are you never going to sleep? Working at 02.00 in the night and helping the guys in Amerika?
Respect!
_________________
Viele Grüße,
Joachim Neumann (Dietrich's AG)
Software für den Holzbau, Abbund, Holzrahmenbau, Blockbau, Ingenieurholzbau und für die Fertighausindustrie

if (ahnung == 0) { read "Tipps & Tricks"; use SEARCH; use Blog; } else { use brain; make post; }

Joachim Neumann
Moderator
Moderator
 
Envoyés: 27423
Inscrit le: Jui 07, 2004
Localisation: Neubiberg

Re: Can I cut profiled beams

Poster Posté le: 27.09.2007 09:18

Yes, it seems so. Sourire
Hans had a question, so what should I do?
_________________
Freundlich grüßt
Der_Planer

Der_Planer
Power-Experte
Power-Experte
 
Envoyés: 10459
Inscrit le: Aou 24, 2004
Localisation: 51143 Köln
Montrer les messages depuis:   
Répondre au sujetRépondre au sujet Page 1 sur 2 Aller à la page 1, 2  Suivante

Timber Design Modules

Sauter vers:  



Vous ne pouvez pas poster de nouveaux sujets dans ce forum
Vous ne pouvez pas répondre aux sujets dans ce forum
Vous ne pouvez pas éditer vos messages dans ce forum
Vous ne pouvez pas supprimer vos messages dans ce forum
Vous ne pouvez pas voter dans les sondages de ce forum
Vous ne pouvez pas joindre des fichiers
Vous ne pouvez pas télécharger des fichiers

Toutes les heures sont au format GMT + 1 Heure