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Top plate in wall (or gypsum) as bottom plate for roof???

Top plate in wall (or gypsum) as bottom plate for roof???

Posted: 25.05.2007 11:06
Author: Thorvald
Is it possible to define the top beam (and gypsum(?)) as bottom plate for roof - so that rafters automatically get a birth mouth's cut around the edge of the wall (the edge of the outside gypsum).

As for now, I make this birth mouth manually in D-Cam, and it takes some time. Crying or Very sad

Re: Top plate in wall (or gypsum) as bottom plate for roof??

Posted: 25.05.2007 12:26
Author: Der_Planer Location: 51143 Köln
No, that is not possible.

Perhaps you can use a little trick:
In roof design put in some purlins, they will make the birds mouths automatically. Be sure to have the line markings on the purlins. Then in Dicam you take each single purlin, and explode the line markings. At the same time, the birds mouths will be exploded, too (without manual treating every single rafter). Delete the purlins, and the birds mouths will stay!

Re: Top plate in wall (or gypsum) as bottom plate for roof??

Posted: 25.05.2007 13:09
Author: Thorvald
Ok - thank you - I will take a look at that, because I don't know what is a "purlin".

Re: Top plate in wall (or gypsum) as bottom plate for roof??

Posted: 25.05.2007 13:35
Author: Der_Planer Location: 51143 Köln
What is the correct word for the horizontal beams, where the rafters are nailed upon?
I thought it was "purlin"? Embarassed

Next update installation I should install more language files...

Re: Top plate in wall (or gypsum) as bottom plate for roof??

Posted: 25.05.2007 14:07
Author: Jens Krause Location: Neubiberg
Hi Planer,

it´s OK: "purlin" is the correct expression for "Pfette"!

Regards,

Jens

Re: Top plate in wall (or gypsum) as bottom plate for roof??

Posted: 25.05.2007 14:49
Author: Thorvald
It might be "purlin", but I did not work with that - so that's why I don't know what it is.

Re: Top plate in wall (or gypsum) as bottom plate for roof??

Posted: 25.05.2007 14:56
Author: doug Location: Magrathea
Hello Planer,
we should install an english version, so its better to translate the correct words Wink Laughing

Re: Top plate in wall (or gypsum) as bottom plate for roof??

Posted: 26.05.2007 11:46
Author: Thorvald
I cannot find "purlin" in roof design, where is it supposed to be??

Another way could be to just put in plates (that will just run into the wall's top plate), and when finished, delete these plates - but then maybe the birth mouths will not stay??

Re: Top plate in wall (or gypsum) as bottom plate for roof??

Posted: 26.05.2007 12:12
Author: doug Location: Magrathea
It´s in roof- design 5-3 Wink
Normally it should work with the solution, make a screen- print or send the project to the forum, somebody will look at it Wink

Re: Top plate in wall (or gypsum) as bottom plate for roof??

Posted: 26.05.2007 12:34
Author: Thorvald
OK. Wink I still see no 'purlin'.

Re: Top plate in wall (or gypsum) as bottom plate for roof??

Posted: 26.05.2007 12:39
Author: doug Location: Magrathea
....mmmh, ok, the translation says this Wink

Re: Top plate in wall (or gypsum) as bottom plate for roof??

Posted: 26.05.2007 13:00
Author: Thorvald
So - is it bottom plates??

Re: Top plate in wall (or gypsum) as bottom plate for roof??

Posted: 26.05.2007 13:18
Author: Joachim Neumann Location: Neubiberg
Yes, it is the bottom-plate. You can also call it purlin.

Re: Top plate in wall (or gypsum) as bottom plate for roof??

Posted: 26.05.2007 14:24
Author: jmiller Location: UP of MI
A purlin is a horizontal member whos top face is in the plane of the roof. (5-3-4 in roof design.) A plate is a roof member whos sides are plumb and level.

If you have a midspan member (not rotated in the plane of the roof) with rafters framed over it, this is commonly called a purlin plate (5-3-2 in roof design). If you have a midspan member in the plane of the roof (it is rotated) and rafters frame into it, this is commonly called a principal purlin.

Not to get caught up in terminology, or anything.

Joe

Re: Top plate in wall (or gypsum) as bottom plate for roof??

Posted: 26.05.2007 14:46
Author: Der_Planer Location: 51143 Köln
Thorvald:
.... delete these plates - but then maybe the birth mouths will not stay??

Please read again the second post of this thread. If you follow it, the birds mouths will stay!

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